Monday, January 23, 2012

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Nokia N9

Posted: 23 Jan 2012 03:19 AM PST

But its OS is ouuuuuuuuuuuuuut dated... Atleast symbian will have some apps but meego....???

Smarterphone might power future Nokia feature phones

Posted: 23 Jan 2012 03:15 AM PST

It was great news chromaniac, thanks for sharing this and no doubt Nokia will be coming and beating other smartphone available in India.

Phone With Auto/Hot Key Beepless Call Recorder

Posted: 23 Jan 2012 03:13 AM PST

This is a concept phone :applause:

Tabplus Rio

Posted: 23 Jan 2012 03:13 AM PST

Asus RT-n13u , urgent help

Posted: 23 Jan 2012 02:56 AM PST

which one from these all ?

Any one getting 4mbps speeds on old ip range of 59.x.x.x

Posted: 23 Jan 2012 02:56 AM PST

I am on 1350 Plan.

Beginning of the month I am on 117.x.x.x IP range with 4 mbps speed

Once I reach the FUP limit 20 GB I am automatically switched to 59.x.x.x Ip range with 512 kbps speed.

Tata DOCOMO GSM: Bad News For Tata Docomo Customers

Posted: 23 Jan 2012 02:46 AM PST

From 22nd Jan 2012, Tata Docomo Customers Not able to access 3g network if they have done any 2g gprs pack recharge, which they use to get earlier.
If you are not activate any 2G Pack on ur Tata Docomo number then you will able to access 3G Network. I m also using Tata Docomo since last 3 Years. :(
Confirmed from Nodal Desk
Official News on the way!!!

VoIP now legal in India?

Posted: 23 Jan 2012 02:39 AM PST

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Originally Posted by cyberwiz View Post
Where does the license say that? its only your interpretation of what are otherwise clear terms – “(v) The Licensee is not permitted to have PSTN/PLMN connectivity” The license says that a VoIP service cannot call PSTN in India, it nowhere allows a VoIP-VoIP (international) leg and then VoIP – PSTN leg from outside India for the same call, which is just a way of circumventing the rule and thereby illegal. Therefore, the ISP’s are not allowed to offer PSTN calling within India.


1. It's not an interpretation - it's perfectly clear that an ISP licensee is not allowed to have PSTN connectivity. There is NOTHING stopping me from having PSTN connectivity in another country and having PSTN calls to India originate from there.

Moreover, Skype is not, nor is any of the other VOIP providers (including the company in the OP) an ISP in India, and as such, they are not bound by the license. They operate outside of Indian territories, therefore outside of Indian jurisdiction, therefore irrespective of where *I* am as a user of a service such as Skype, I am indeed allowed to make a call to a PSTN line in India from a service like Skype. There is no grey area here, nor any circumvention of the rules. If it were illegal as you say, then none of these providers would be allowed to be accessible from India anyway. The UAE did it a few years back, there is nothing stopping India.

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Originally Posted by cyberwiz View Post
Ofcourse, UASL agreements have their own ambiguities regarding the PSTN connectivity which have still not been clarified by the DoT, probably will be addressed in the USL


Frankly, India is all about taking advantage of ambiguous rules.

That being said, I don't see much ambiguities in the respective licenses: it's really only the ISP license which prohibits VOIP<>PSTN interaction. However, if I were to summon up another 25cr or so and get an NLD license, then that interaction becomes legal.

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Originally Posted by cyberwiz View Post
How do you know that the +4404 code is not being generated from within India by an illegal gateway?
Because I know that 1. The caller is not in India and 2. The caller is calling me from Skype. I'm fairly certain the likes of Skype wouldn't want to get in the government's bad books any more than it already is by operating illegal gateways.

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Originally Posted by cyberwiz View Post
Call centre's have their own licences falling under OSP, some of them may even be allowed PSTN-VoIP within India, under special agreement with the government, so it’s a different issue.


Like I said, it's subject to the license. If you read the NLD license to which I referred to...

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Originally Posted by cyberwiz View Post
If the document doesn’t apply to skype, then skype automatically becomes legal? Difficult to understand that logic.


Each country has different laws. Skype (etc) must adhere to the laws of the country (or countries) in which it operates. Skype does not offer any services which require licensing nor any which contradict any of the licenses as they stand now.

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Originally Posted by cyberwiz View Post

A skype VoIP call returning back to India as PSTN is still a VoIP-PSTN call, the licence nowhere expressly allows a VoIP provider to have two legs and thereby conveniently bypass the rule which simply says you cant call a PSTN number from VoIP. The fact that none of the current Indian ITSP’s are doing this substantiates my point.


As far as the Indian government is concerned, it's a PSTN to PSTN call, because the connection to the PSTN network is made abroad only - irrespective of where the caller is physically located.

If this were not true, then pretty much ALL calls from countries like France would have to be blocked, and indeed there would be no incoming calls allowed whatsoever from almost any country in the Pacific. Why? They are ALL VOIP based. Most of France' landlines are VOIP lines, delivered via a single box which controls the Internet, Phone and TV. Australia is quickly becoming similar with it's "BoB" box, and such services have recently started in NZ with things like "Orcon Genius". Nauru's mobile network is basically some D.I.Y GSM transmitter kits and an Asterisk box.

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Originally Posted by cyberwiz View Post
The argument was what the end-user is allowed to do. Not what Telco’s including NLDL’s are doing.
I know. Which is why I made the distinctions to begin with.

recharging prepaid airtel mobile using airtel.in

Posted: 23 Jan 2012 02:29 AM PST

Airtel prepaid mobile recharge made easier with netbanking at www.airtel.in

easy recharge

looks fine. i do not however see the option of renewing pay per second plan. i guess i would continue to visit my local market to get it done. :|
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