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Huawei UMG1831 speed upto 28.8 Mbps

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 03:33 AM PST

k.....thanks fr ur infrmatn

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after tat ...he gav any solution or not... for umg1831

Will Airtel Broadband stop FUP on 512k plans after TRAI redefine broadband?

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 03:29 AM PST

Thanks for the specific document. I understand your point of legal validity of this recommedation as of now. Anyways, I am going to talk to airtel with this document attached and see how they react.

Query: Latest on airtel 3G launch?

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 03:25 AM PST

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Originally Posted by AjayJP View Post
I beleive the govt. hurdle is only on Video calling, however that should not stop launching data services.
Looks like Govt gave the green signal for 3g video calling. Here is the link for tamil newspaer (Sorry this is in TAMIL)

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=157482

-Kannan M

Launch of dedicated section for problems related to airtel branded services

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 03:22 AM PST

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Originally Posted by admin View Post
and majority of users have not been complaining about the FUP limits.[COLOR="Silver"]

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:rofl whole BBforrum seems to be dedicated to airtels fuked up FUP....even my friend who has been using airtel is stuck on old plan as if he migrates to new plan his speeds will fuked becz of reduced FUP........na its nt good...

Fivenet Downloading Speed

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 01:59 AM PST

Oh thats superb!! I just hope i get this soon!!

Hayai Broadband FAQs

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 01:54 AM PST

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
This looks interesting, little bit more info. therein. Would there be a way for a user to differentiate between users from Hayai network and outside traffic. Say on bittorrent where this would make it an interesting application.
Yeah. Turn on "resolve IPs" in uTorrent. That'll at least tell you where it's coming from, but unless you have an app that can restrict your traffic to certain IP ranges, then probably not.

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
Also lot of services can be put on p2p algorithims which again raises several possibilities. Just as an e.g. see apt-p2p

Think downloading games, downloading maps and whatever in a p2p friendly environment. While these might be download only stuff but lot of potential creative talent could be unleashed, atleast lots of FOSS contributors like me would be actually be in a place to make contributions.
Yeah we've jacked up some pretty heavy P2P caching systems - everything from Torrents to Rapidshare to normal HTTP downloads - a single system stores 60TB at any one time, and I don't think there's any reason we can't put in secondary systems later on.

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
I don't get it. I have seen and experienced that in BSNL and see that in almost of the services offered. Why not synchronous connectivity speeds, some more clarity here please.
BSNL do it as a limitation of ADSL - 24 down 3.5 up is the theoretical maximum here (or 8/1 on older systems).

As for us, there are 3 basic reasons:
1: It's a small differentiation between residential and different levels of business services.
2: most residential connection don't *need* synchronous upstream anyway.
3: the technology is currently limited to 2.5Gbit/s down and 1.25Gbit/s up (per tree), so although symmetrical connections would be possible, it would create potentially more upstream contention.

Not the best reasons in the world, I'll be the first to admit, however for those on data plans, 25mbit/s upstream is nothing to gripe about. As for those on the flat-rate plans 2.5mbit/s or more upstream is also fairly decent.

Furthermore, on a worldwide scale 25% upstream is excellent. Even in Scandinavia the typical ratio is 10 down:1 up (100mbit/s down, 10 up, or 1000 down, 100 up). Realistically, I'm guessing here, but PROBABLY if you absolutely *need* synchronous speeds, you're a business of some sort.

However, if there's a good reason for making speeds synchronous, I'm open to suggestion.

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
In addition to that, would there be places where you could check out equipment, demo places, demo units to see the things in action. Know what it would mean. Something that is atleast open during all business hours and potentially is also a Cyber-Cafe or something (so atleast if people cannot buy the service for some reason it runs as a proft centre of its own).
Yes, I don't see why not. The office space in Mahim has a small space for a store, but it's a tiny bit out of the way (not on a main road) so we'd probably want to put a showroom somewhere slightly more prominent.

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
This again would need more clarifications. Procedures,process etc. Also something on what implications (if any) there might be for a potential user. For e.g. what do I need to do if and when I sell my old wi-fi router to somebody else, you know that kinda thing. Just to take an e.g.
There is a standard form from the TRAI which we can provide, however as mentioned, most of our equipment has WiFi already included so you shouldn't have to bother (we'd pre-register the device and it would be automatically configured once it was plugged in).

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
Like the bit about the network cards. Know what you mean but it would nice if it is again clarified a bit, something about motherboard based ethernet, cheap network cards having bit of memory on them and the truly expensive commercial offerings.
What throughput you actually get may depend on your network card - thats about all we can say. Historically speaking network cards with Intel or Cisco chipsets have outperformed other chipsets, but if it's onboard, you probably don't have that choice - it's most likely going to be a Realtek chipset or something so I guess you'll get maybe 800mbit/s out of it.

Also, most laptops sold only come with 100mbit/s ethernet cards anyway, so technically connecting via 802.11n wireless would be faster.

Basically what I'm saying that you'll get what you get, but there's no reason that the bandwidth *we* supply you shouldn't be a limiting factor - most likely it will be the hardware you've chosen.

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
This would be interesting to see how they are able to do it. Apart from pricing issues, most of the times its customer support which drives people nuts.
I agree. Not only are the phone menus being kept simple (I've set up a practice one in NZ) so that you can easily get through to the correct department, but I expect to be personally supervising my teams both in Mumbai and as we expand to other cities, so as to establish good practices and good responses, rather than having such bog-standard responses - my CSRs must be good diagnosticians.

I'm trying to figure out how best to reward CSRs though - obviously they can send out an email/sms survey after the call, but I fear that these may not be reliable... and MPI is probably not reliable either. Nor closed tickets.

Obviously if customers call asking for a particular CSR, that probably means that they're good at what they do and may deserve a raise, though this probably doesn't happen much in India due to the sheer number of callers/customers/CSRs.

Hayai Broadband Launch in India

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 01:26 AM PST

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Originally Posted by Chaitanya Thengdi View Post
That's the bigger job done. :)
In terms of distance, yeah, maybe. In terms of complexity... not even close.

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Originally Posted by Chaitanya Thengdi View Post
I don't think Railtel are, at all, interested in the last-mile fiber - instead they will stick to backhaul and let companies like you do the rest of the job.
Only thing is that they don't want you to know it, so that may be their excuse to tackle the situation.
They have a retail arm. I'm not sure why their service is not available through cablewalas in places like Mumbai and Delhi though... although unfortunately they no longer have anything like unlimited 32mbit/s.

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
Simply speaking, from Railtel's perspective, its much much easier for them to deal with few company wallahs and negotiate in backhaul deals then dealing with irate customers and all the mess that brings with that.
Yeah. Let BSNL do that.

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
See BSNL for instance. Even though its Sarkari, I know some of the honest guys they get literally harassed by irate customers. The cunning ones are the ones who are never in office so additional load is on these guys.
That doesn't sound like an Indian government organization at all!! [/sarcasm]

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
I know of atleast 3-4 colleagues for whom they need ubiquotous broadband for their work. One guy literally shut his shop for a day and just sat in front of the concerned officer's chair. BSNL had been playing with him for the last 6 months or so.
I've heard similar stories.

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
The above cases tell/share of both the potential within the market-space as well as the need for having motivated and better technical and customer support guys. Getting good people who can play with technology, be flexible in their approach towards customers, have a good bedside manner (in doctor/medicine speak) is what will crack the market.
We like playing with technology.

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Originally Posted by shirishag75 View Post
Most of the companies and the people I have seen don't see the need to uphold any company's values. Most of them are just looking for their next paycheck which is ok I guess. Thinking customers as idiots or cheating them is a different story altogether.
I've got the CVs of the reps I ended up hiring in a folder. I couldn't even tell you what's written on those CVs, but it was on the basis of my casual conversations with those people that they got the job. I know enough "paper MCSEs" (people who are certified but don't know jack) and about IT schools in India to be wary of most graduates *actual* abilities.

Unfortunately, enough customers are either idiots or trying to cheat you that it's a warranted concern. You've probably seen evidence of that on some of the other threads - people suggesting they would buy a residential 100mbit/s flat-rate plan (even if it were at a price which *everyone* could afford) and then on-selling it to neighbours or setting up a cyber cafe... that's not cool - that could even be described as malicious intent - especially if they are not licensed, because we'd probably end up receiving more of the wrath from the regulatory side than they would.

On the whole though, I'm expecting that we'll mostly have customers not unlike Sushubh who just want fast speeds and who will pay for what they use, and hopefully the prices of the flat-rate plans should be enough to put off all but the most determined network abusers (not that we're keeping prices artificially high - I think they'll be a bargain considering what they are!)

Huawei umg1831 not detecting 3g signal after update with k4505 firmware, Plz help

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 01:25 AM PST

First, you shouldn't have tried to load k4505 firmware on umg1831. Your fault. Without IMEI number, your device is useless. It can't be used in India. If your seller offered warranty, check if you can replace the device. Otherwise, buy a new device. No other solutions as of now. Sorry for you. :frown:

what are the pacakges of hayai broadband?

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 01:13 AM PST

what are the packages of hayai broadband and when they are coming to kolkata?
in kolkata we already have tough competition going on between these cable isps

Wishnet broadband 512kbps unlimited Rs490

Meghbela broadband 256kbps (12am-8am 2mbps) unlimited Rs400

Alliance broadband 400kbps unlimited Rs499

Ortel broadband 512kbps unlimtied Rs450

Blinknet broadband 512kbps unlimited Rs399

Sify broadband 384kbps unlimited Rs500

Bsnl 256kbps unlimited Rs499

Average kolkatans dont spend above Rs500 on broadband bill so we will be expecting a good pacakge with decent bandwith at a cheap rate so that middle class families like us can afford. people of kolkata don't have the habit of spending thousands on an unlimited connection.

So hoping hayai comes in kolkata with some affordable package like HNS or Nivyah say 512kbps with night double speeds for Rs400 or something like that.


sad that in my are only Alliance is present :wall:

Ugly experience with Nivyah Broadband - Frauds with Fake Plans

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 12:57 AM PST

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Originally Posted by vikkymath View Post
Just wanted to see Mgcarley to launch Hayai Broadband in india. with 100mbit Speeds to a single user.
Why write this in a Nivyah thread? We'll launch when we launch.

Wishnet Broadband

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 12:57 AM PST

I am using Alliance Broadband Executive Mega package for Rs992 per month and getting this speed


BREAKING NEWS:ISAIARUVI Channal UNABLE TO VIEW

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 12:56 AM PST

Dear Friends

Today mrng onwards Isaiaruvi channal unable to view in ADTV. I m getting the broadcaster service is unavailable :confuse:

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Now its viewable friends

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Now its viewable friends

BEAM TELE BROADBAND SERVICES IN HYDERABAD best n cheapest

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 12:55 AM PST

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Originally Posted by vikkymath View Post
@ mgcarley:pleasehelp: Please tell me for how much do they buy bandwidth and all .. please reply to all my queries in this thread!! :@
The exact numbers are confidential, for which NDAs have been signed. I know my figures and I can give ballparks based on that but I cannot speak for Beam or any other ISP - I can merely make an educated guess.

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Originally Posted by vikkymath View Post
@ Mgcarley yeah ur right, i have also checked.. the bandwidth is from VSNL, and as far as i know they have a secondary server that is from Bharati as a back up.. if the VSNL is down or for some reason, they use the Airtel server..
VSNL and Bharti are for the most part using the same cable systems, that is, SMW4.

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Originally Posted by vikkymath View Post
Can u explain for how much do they buy the bandwidth.. and how do they distribute ( say 2 lakh customers??). What i wanted to say is if they buy 155 or 200 Mbit/s. I think he has to buy bandwidth in GB.. Wat do ya say?
I dont think Every user will get proper speeds if they buy 150 Mbit/sec or 200!
I guess it depends. The wholesalers sell it in blocks of 155mbit/s (STM-1), for which the maximum price is 2.99 Crores (set/published by TRAI) - I doubt they pay anywhere near this much, though the exact figures as I mentioned would be confidential and are not known by me (I only know what price I would pay for the same amount).

I would expect Beam probably has about 2.5Gbit/s (STM-16) if they have about 1 lakh customers, though it's hard to tell exactly because they're not advertising very many IP addresses (perhaps they're using a lot of NAT or something).

List of Modem not working in BSNL West Zone

Posted: 02 Jan 2011 12:49 AM PST

Rocket Internet - Huawei UMG1831 3G Modem USB (New Arrival) what abt this modem is working on 3g in maharashtra
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