Friday, October 22, 2010

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Posted: 22 Oct 2010 03:01 AM PDT

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It is HD Why do they make it look like 3D?

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 02:55 AM PDT

hehe. well. HD has been shown in ads as real like visuals. :D


External Tv tuner - a doubt

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 02:33 AM PDT

Thanks guys .


Getting low speeds - MTNL Broadband Delhi

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 02:27 AM PDT

Finally now I'm getting the speed according to my plan. 1Mbps.. earlier it was around 490kbps..

Had to visit Nehru Place exchange.. it took me 45 mins to find the right person in exchange.. going from here & there.. this building to that building.. :wall:

I now understood if there is any issue,their call center(1504) sucks.. all promises are fake.. Best way is to visit exchange & get the work done then and there itself..

I had to take 1st half off from office to do this.. These SARKARI BABUS seriously :iomg:

Still i'm keeping AIRTEL Broadband for a month if in case !


BSNL starts fibre-to-the-home broadband services in Vadodara

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 02:26 AM PDT

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Originally Posted by mgcarley View Post
Fibre and ADSL require roughly the same amount of skills, just different. I'm sure they've got a separate set of trained people to deal with their Fibre as well as their ADSL.

As a business person, I don't really agree with true unlimited plans. As a consumer, I totally do. The problem for BSNL will be overheads.

I quite agree with you about unlimited plans. But regarding skills i donot.
I am facing poor broadband speeds with BSNL 4Mbps plan. I have raised multiple complaints but no one from BSNL exchange, NOC, NIB is sure what the problem is. Do you really think bsnl has capable technical staff who can resolve issues in lets say 1 week?
I doubt. If they are not capable of resolving issues in ADSL n/w, do you think they are capable of resolving issues in OFC based n/w ? :happy:
More over they dont have proper customer support system and people. Their support executives disconnect calls when they are not aware of what to reply :@ that too after making you wait for 10min to talk to them.


What would you do with a 100mbit/s or 1Gbit/s connection?

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 02:17 AM PDT

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Originally Posted by akshay12 View Post
would love to create my data backup online than wait for hard disk to crash and me wasting my time recovering whatever data i can ! Plus downloading stuff for my animation will be quite easy with that speed from my institute.:|

In Finland I used to use Mozy to do a daily backup of my documents. I can dig having cloud-based private backups.

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Originally Posted by admin View Post
looking at the time it took for me to backup my own and wife's flickr accounts. hell yeah.

+1. I felt your pain.

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Originally Posted by anupcshan View Post
Adding to the online backup concept, we could set up some sort of distributed file system (maybe based on DC++ or torrents or something) so that people can stream stuff off each other's computers directly. This would work really well in a LAN environment with low latencies and gigabit speeds.

Isn't there something like this already available? Well, I'm pretty sure that the software is available, you'd just have to set up the stream and tell people the address.

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Originally Posted by anupcshan View Post
Utility is mostly restricted to streamable content (audio/video). Considering they take up significant portion of hard disk space, you could avoid having to buy a lot of hard disks. Why bother replicating content too many times if one can (almost) always access it online?

+1, but surely a 60TB torrent cache would help ;)

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Originally Posted by anupcshan View Post
This becomes even more interesting if one considers 802.11n etc and wants to do all this on their phone/tablet device. "Low capacity" flash drive is sufficient to run the whole device.

Our routers should have 802.11n built in for all your wireless goodness.

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Originally Posted by raj1402 View Post
just now downloaded blu ray movie of files size 45gb on my server 1gbps and 14MBps on avg
it took exactly just an hour to download 45GB :D

in my home connection ETA 4days :(

Sounds like fun, but other than piracy, any kind of creative uses?

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Originally Posted by auroraPWN View Post
In india when you go to any normal gaming cafe.. let me give the example of zapak (these are owned privately and operated by reliance 200+ in india) .... there are 20 pc's in the cafe in delhi near Venki college and all they have is a 2mbit line... ! i mean WTF 2mbps for 20pcs?!!.... with that speed like 100mbits or so ... updating games would become a lot easier specially now since many game updates are going to come ... and you have 140 games to update... :) 1 game update is like 2GB avg...

Bugger that. You'd think they'd supply their own Internet Cafe's with decent lines :D Even better if we're hosting mirrors of the game downloads.

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Originally Posted by auroraPWN View Post
secondly what i can think of is providing my own Game Server hosting... instead of paying 20k/month to a company to host a server.. if my users are using the same network then i can host my own game servers with my own better and more powerful pc's

This would be better in a Data Centre or a Corporate connection: SLA SLA SLA. And support from our side. To host a gameserver in our DC we're looking at roughly Rs25k/year + bandwidth, which for a gameserver is pretty minimal.

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Originally Posted by auroraPWN View Post
thirdly for a house having many broadband users it could be a boon... like if 5 people use the internet simultaneously... it could be really helpful... (distributing the bandwidth ofc) but providing HD streaming capability + broadband + voip on one line (useful for corporates)

We've been thinking the same. I know of houses with 3, 4, 5+ Internet Connectable Devices - trying to use the net on existing connections is nothing short of painful.

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Originally Posted by auroraPWN View Post
that's all i can frankly think of ... and with speeds like 1GB/s are mostly going to be used by corp's or mad torrentors... (warez distributors) .... and mg i dont think any reason why we would really need more than 100mbits for home use...

1Gbit/s would be available to home users for the internal part of the network anyway. We rate-limit the traffic to 100mbit/s once it starts to leave the network anyway. Frankly I have no problem with DC++ servers within the network, offering connectivity to our own customers: in addition to our various caches and mirrors, use of such software *can* mitigate our bandwidth costs hugely, and also save you a bundle if you're on a data-plan.

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Originally Posted by SVK View Post
IPTV would be separate, so that anyways cant be considered in 'normal user' broadband connection.

Technically IPTV would take from the available capacity on the line, but it wouldn't normally be noticeable, especially at 1Gbit/s (though the devices themselves can handle up to 2.5Gbit/s anyway (I think), the LAN ports are Gbit only and people have only Gbit network cards, so... there is the limiting factor!)

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Originally Posted by SVK View Post
But after sometime when we have service like Google TV/Apple TV and many such Online TV services who depend upon good broadband speed, we would need faster internet :)

I would hope to peer with or host GoogleTV/AppleTV etc and have it delivered as part of the Hayai Zone.

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Originally Posted by SVK View Post
Also I think your question was more towards home users, so for home users do we really need 1 Gbits/s line? 100 Mbit/s with constant speed and no downtime would be sufficient (?)

Downtime is often hard to predict. We can put in physical security and battery backups, but there are so many other things that can potentially go wrong. Recently, most ISPs in NZ lost all international connectivity because of a powercut to the upstream providers data-center (despite there being only 1 cable in and out of NZ, there are about 4 or 5 resellers of bandwidth on that cable).

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Originally Posted by SVK View Post
And finally what would be its price range for 'home users'?

We've already published our expected prices (subject to change, of course) at Powered by Google Docs - I'd really like to see 100mbit/s flat rate at around 3k for home users very soon.

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Originally Posted by auroraPWN View Post
HD Streaming would require like i guess 10~15mbits....

Try 40.

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Originally Posted by auroraPWN View Post
@svk is right ... IPTV should not be considered as a service provided by the ISP to the consumer under the normal broadband connection since he would have to pay extra and hence it should be considered as a Value Added service... but yes the advantage of having a 100mbits line is that if the consumer decides to use IPTV... he can do that without having to pay extra for installation(line) and disrupted broadband service while the IPTV works...

Subscribers would get 100mbit/s Internet + necessary bandwidth for IPTV streams - generally speaking we would provide up to 1.25Gbit/s to each subscriber depending on how many IPTV feeds they can receive (that would be enough for 1Gbit/s Local, including 100mbit/s to the Internet, 5 HD IPTV streams and about 500 VOIP lines).

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Originally Posted by teftar View Post
Hosting my web page, Providing XDCC bots,Create a Lan system with centralised storage for offsite back up along with my friends so that we can create a media bank for personal use.:happy:

Gaming of course.:cool:

Personal web page OK. XDCC bots I think should be OK. Personal storage system should be OK - best of course, if they are all customers too ;)

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Originally Posted by 22karthikreddy View Post
If this 100mbit/s really comes.. I'll start up my own public cloud and start offering the services :dance:

We simply wouldn't allow that on a consumer connection.

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Originally Posted by 22karthikreddy View Post
Yeah it would be a business service.. As mg said he is going to offer the broadband in the three to four packages.. I would go with a corporate package(Not sure in which I may end up)..

But my main point is instead we going to some cloud providers like amazon or google why can't we make them available in India itself when such high bandwidths are available like 1Gibt/s to 45 Gibt/s(Seen somewhere in mg post).

I'd really like to see this - cloud hosting in India. I wonder if I should put you in touch with our hosting partner, they might be able to help you get started. And perhaps I should also put you in touch with my good friend Ramine who owns and operates mysites.com.

And the 40Gbit/s is just the equipment we can put at either end. Of course, these speeds I'm talking about are measured per fiber pair: more fiber pairs = more bandwidth with the same equipment (which may operate at 10, 40 or when it comes out properly 100gbit/s per fiber pair). It's highly dependent on demand, but I'm reasonably sure that even the equipment based on 10Gbit/s will be fine in most cases, based on my discussions with other ISPs.


More HD channels???

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 02:12 AM PDT

I have heard Tata Sky transponder capacity has almost exhausted so how do they intend getting more HD channels in near future?


Google might launch first major digital media store in India!

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 02:09 AM PDT

Google Music India launched!

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Discover Music


Airtel Unlimited STD @ Rs 100

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 01:59 AM PDT

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Originally Posted by admin View Post
because we do not have a landline section? broadband connection comes with a landline right?

OK got it.
Anyway I don't think I know that many people having Airtel landline to make Rs 100/- worth of calls. If they had included calls to Airtel mobile it may have been a little attractive.
Also I wonder how this kind of scheme will work once we have number portability.


What is worth to invest in?

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 01:53 AM PDT

ING VYSYA BANK 2QFY11: Business growth accelerates; Margin and CASA improvement continues; PCR improves to 70%+ says Motilal Oswal note


Real time stock quotes

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 01:46 AM PDT

Etisalat’s operations likely remain in the test launch phase with total reported subscriber base of ~57,000 says Motilal Oswal note


Internet Connection Sharing Methods ?

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 01:38 AM PDT

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Originally Posted by sd2187 View Post
Thanks mgcarley!!

I have Betel 220 BX ADSL2 router.

My Main computer is connected the router. The Main computer has CCproxy/Analog X installed(i use either of them). All of my computers including main computer are networked with Linksys Switch. All computers have windows XP installed.

I want to know, step by step, way to configure router for sharing net.



It's fairly straightforward:
0. Note your existing settings.
1. Connect Beetel directly to switch.
2. Log in to router and enable DHCP (beetel 220BX- User Manual, section 4.1.2 is what you're after).
3. Set all computers to use default gateway of Beetel (eg 192.168.1.1) instead of whatever IP address your main PC is using and it should be fine.
4. Set up WAN connection to PPPoE mode, with whatever your username and password is (see section 3.4.1 of the same document).

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Originally Posted by sd2187 View Post
Also suggest if there is any opensource or free software ...as Kerio is
expensive.
! And my need is simple ...just share the net, block certain sites or users.

I'm pretty sure I mentioned that. Windows-based solutions often are expensive, partially because there aren't very many (good ones). Check out sourceforge.net - you might get lucky, but in my brief searches most of what I found was designed for Linux.

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Originally Posted by sd2187 View Post
My current probs are : (except main computer)...i cant refresh pages of sites using Ajax etc. I can log in my Gmail etc though. Upload speed is almost nil.

I would be delighted if the existing proxy software or any free software can be tweaked to solve the problem.

Re-check this after reconfiguring your Beetel modem.

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Originally Posted by sd2187 View Post
And if nothing helps i will configure the router to share the net.(then i will have risk of data theft, lack of control on net usage etc)

Although you'd lose some specific control over the net & usage, why would you risk data-theft? It can't be any more insecure than it is already.

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Originally Posted by 22karthikreddy View Post
As mg said it depends on the investment that you are willing to keep. But if you are looking for a good open source proxy software.. I would recommend you to use Squid Cache.. I have used it a long back almost 2 years ago.. Its acts as a proxy server and also web cache daemon.

Squid is all good and well, but he will need to buy another machine (new or used, shouldn't matter).


Vodafone 3G delayed. Would launch next year!

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 01:34 AM PDT

you do realize that these tariffs are for edge network.


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